John Lamb

John Lamb

Born 16 February 1835 – Finsthwaite, Lancashire
Baptism: 8 Mar 1835 Baptism Place: Haverthwaite, Lancashire, England
Died 26 April 1922 – Ipsley, Redditch, Aged 87

John Lamb 1835-1922

At age 35 he is described as a Coal Dealer then at 45 as a General Dealer in Askam. In Askam the Lambs appear to have lived next door the to the Towers on Duke street.

1871 England Census

Sometime after 1881 they moved from Askam, to Forhill Worcestershire (1881/2 – 1884/6 according to the birth records below) and then to Ipsley (around 1884-1886)✝; Forhill is about 7 or 8 miles from Ipsley. Minnie (Thompson) recalled in later years that they lived on a farm at Forhill; there are two obvious candidates Big and Little Farm Forhill, both still exist. There are some newspaper articles implying a change of hands of the farm at about the right year but the Lambs are not mentioned.

John Lamb was described, in 1886, as a Farmer at Ipsley and would be aged 56 (see census below).

✝This article would make the move 1886

Father: George Lamb, Born 1811 Sawrey, Lancashire, Died 1887 Greater Manchester (aged 76)
Mother: Margaret Battersby, Born 1813, Hackenthwaite, Westmorland, Died 1890 Greater Manchester (aged 77)

William Lamb, brother: Born 29 October 1836 at Finstwit (Finsthwaite, Lancashire)
Margaret Lamb, sister: Born 5 December 1838 Finstwit (Finsthwaite, Lancashire)
George Lamb, brother: Born 26 September 1840 at Sowrey (Sawrey)
Mary Lamb, sister: Born 27 September 1842 at Sowrey (Sawrey)
Thomas Lamb, brother: Born 26 April 1844 at Sowrey (Sawrey)
James Lamb, brother: Born 23 April 1846, Born Bull Cloaes (Bull Close, Skelwith)
Joseph Lamb, brother: Born 24 March 1849 – 16 August 1861 (Aged 12). Born ‘How Loughrigg’
Edward Lamb, brother: Born 31 October 1850, ‘Oxen Fell’
Catherine (Cherie?) Lamb, sister: Born 14 November 1852, at ‘Tarne Foot’ (Tarn Foot)
Agnes Lamb, sister: Born 11 August 1855 – 29 July 1859 (Aged 4). Born ‘How Loughrigg’

Entries in ‘The Works of John Bunyan’ By John Lamb, Seaton 1861

Died 26 April 1922 at Field Farm Ipsley. Probate granted to John Arthur Lamb and Ernest Marquis Lamb Farmers –  Effects £1157 17s


Mary Jane Lamb (Née Towers)

Born 1848 – Sutcliffe Street, Habergham Eaves, Burnley, Lancashire

Died 1908. Death registered January/March quarter 1909 Alcester aged 61

Mary Jane Towers 1848 – 1908
In Loving Memory of Mary Jane Lamb of Field Farm, Died March 22nd 1909, Aged 60. Also her husband John died April 26th 1922, Aged 92. Also Ernest their son died Sept 4th 1968, Aged 88.

Mother: Mary Ann Towers
Father: unknown


Born Died
Margaret Ann Lambdaughter1869Askam9 May 1949
William Henry Lambson1870Askam16 January 1946
George Edward Lambson1871Askam1879
James Alfred Lambson1873Askam1960
John Arthur Lambson1875Askam5 March 1939
Agnes Ellen (Nelly) Lambdaughter1877Askam1968
Ernest Marquis Lambson1879AskamSept 4th 1968, Aged 88
Frederick Walter Lambson1881Askam?
Mary Jane (Molly) Lambdaughter1882Forhill Worcester1980
Florence Emily Lambdaughter1884Forhill Worcester1970
Sarah (Lizzy) Lambdaughter1886Ipsley Warwickshire?
Albert Victor (Bert) Lambson1889Ipsley Warwickshire1976
Edith May Lambdaughter1892Ipsley Warwickshire1985
The Lamb family at Ipsley – Field Farm
Field Farm Ipsley

The drawing elevation (above) is of the ‘front’ of the building, the photos (below) are of the rear.

Mappleborough Green Chapel opened in 1870.

This Mappleborough Green Chapel, Haye Lane, today – a private bungalow

FOUND, a Fat Heifer (roan), on Tuesday, December 19th. —Apply, J. Lamb, Field Farm, Ipsley.
Alcester Chronicle – Saturday 23 December 1911

Census Data

1871 Census  Askam or Ireleth Marsh                               

John      LambHead. Mar35Coal DealerCartmel  Lancashire
Mary JWife23Burnley
Margaret ADaughter2Dalton
William HSon1Dalton

1881 Census   Askam in Furness   Duke Street             

John      LambHead. Mar46General DealerFinsthwaite  Lancashire
Mary J Wife32Burnley
Margaret ADaughter12SchoolAskam
William HSon11SchoolAskam
James ASon7SchoolAskam
John ASon5SchoolAskam
Agnes EDaughter3SchoolAskam
Ernest MSon1Askam
Sarah J AskewServant26Domestic servantUlverston

1891 Census       Ipsley    Field Farm, Henley Road

John LambHead. Mar56FarmerFinsthwaite Westmorland
Mary JWife42Burnley
Margaret ADaughter22Askam
William HSon21Farmer’s sonAskam
James ASon17Warehouse clerkAskam
John ASon15Farmer’s sonAskam
Ernest MSon11ScholarAskam
Fredrick WSon9ScholarAskam
Mary JDaughter8Forhill Worcester(1)
Florence EDaughter7Forhill Worcester
Sarah LDaughter4Ipsley Warwickshire
Albert VSon1Ipsley Warwickshire

(1)Forhill is a hamlet in the Bromsgrove district, in the English county of Worcestershire, England. The Roman Road Icknield Street passes through the hamlet. It is about 7 or 8 miles from Ipsley.

1901 Census

1911 Census, Field Farm Ipsley                                         

John      LambHeadWidower66FarmerFinsthwaite Westmorland
John ArthurSonSingle34Working on farmAskam
Ernest MarquisSonSingle31Working on farmAskam
Mary JaneDaughterSingle28Forhill Worcester (Kingsnorton)
Florence EmilyDaughterSingle27Forhill Worcester (Kingsnorton)
Albert VictorSonSingle21Working on farmIpsley Warwickshire
Edith MayDaughterSingle19Clerk Drapers EstablishmentIpsley Warwickshire
Minnie ThompsonGrand-daughter13SchoolRedditch Warwickshire
Ernest Burton ThompsonGrandson2Redditch Warwickshire

1921 Census, Field Farm Ipsley

6 Persons, 8 Rooms

First name(s)Last nameRelationship to headSexBirth yearAge in yearsBirth placeOccupationEmployer
JohnLambHeadMale183586Westmorland, EnglandFarmerEmployer
E MLambSonMale188041Askam in Furness, Lancashire, England Assisting Father In General Farm Work J Lamb Farmer
M JLambDaughterFemale188238Forhill, WorcestershireHome Duties
S EFellSister-in-lawFemale186160Lancashire, England Help
A EPeachVisitor
[and daughter]
Female187843Askam in Furness, Lancashire, England
FHeynesServantMale190416Redditch, Worcestershire, England General Farm Work J Lamb Farmer

Court Case 1907

Bromsgrove & Droitwich Messenger – Saturday 11 May 1907

INTERESTING MILK CASE, IPSLEY FARMER FINED, John Lamb, farmer, Ipsley, was charged with unlawfully selling, to the prejudice of the purchaser, milk not of the substance and quality  demanded, on April 9th, at Redditch.—Mr- G. W. Hobson prosecuted, and Mr. J. Whiteley defended. —Mr. Hobson said the proceedings were taken under the Sale of Food and Drugs’ Act, 1875.Formerly there was a difficulty with regard to these cases, because there was no fixed standard to go by. In 1901 regulations were made by the authorities providing that where a sample of milk, not being sold as skimmed milk, contained Iess than three per cent of fat or less than 8.5 per cent of milk solids not fat, it should be presumed for the purposes of the Sale of Food and Drugs Act, until the contrary was proved, that the milk was not genuine, by reason of the abstraction of milk fat or the addition of water. The deficiency of fat in this case was extensive-20 per cent, and he asked for a substantial penalty. —Police-sergeant Haines said Police-constable Waddams purchased a pint of milk from the defendant’s son, for which witness provided him with the money. The County Analyst had since certified that the sample was 20 per cent deficient in fat, and contained the following parts; – Fat 2.4 instead of 3, non-fatty solids 8.55, and water 89.05. The certificate further stated that the information was based upon the fact that the sample contained 2.4 per cent of fat, whereas normal milk contained not less than 3 per cent. – In cross-examination witness stated he did not know that the Board of Agriculture had in a circular advised that three per cent was not an absolute standard of fat, and that unless there were special circumstances indicating fraud it was well to ask for an explanation. —Mr. Whiteley, for the defence, said he wished to impress on the Bench the fact that the three per cent standard was not an absolute standard. It was a presumptive standard. If he proved that oils had not been abstracted or water added it did not make this a case of fraud, as it would otherwise appear to be. After making enquires the Board of Agriculture fixed the presumptive standard at 3 per cent. Then for the guidance of the local authorities they sent out a circular, in the course of which it was pointed out that occasionally, and especially at certain seasons of the year, there might be cases in which a sample of genuine milk might fall below this standard. To meet cases of this description it was suggested that in the absence of any special circumstances indicating fraud the local authority should call the attention of the farmer or dealer to the analyst’s report, and ask for an explanation, and if the explanation was satisfactory they might refrain from instituting any proceedings or withdraw any summons. – Mr. Hobson said the local authority a Worcester did not consider that where there was a deficiency of 20 per cent of fat it was necessary to ask for an explanation. They considered it was a case for prosecution. – Mr. Whiteley replied that the local authority at Worcester did not carry the smallest weight with the Bench in that case. They were not there to give evidence. -Mr. Hobson said he objected to the attack on the authority,-Mr. Whiteley retorted he objected to being interrupted in the middle of his speech.-Mr. Hobson: I did not interrupt you. The case has to be decided by the Bench and not by the local authority.-Mr. Whiteley said in the absence of any circumstances suggesting fraud a farmer should be asked for an explanation, which had not been done in this case. Mr. Whiteley stated the milk had not been tampered with in any way, and suggested that the sudden spell of cold weather after Easter affected the cows and the quality of the milk, The Chairman said he thought the fact of the cows being turned out to graze would have improved the milk rather than otherwise. -Mr. Whiteley: Not at first. -The Chairman: That is only an opinion of my own. -Mr. Whiteley : There is a tendency at first for the flow of milk to be greater, but not quite so rich. -The Chairman : I do not think that is the general opinion. -Mr. Whiteley said he based his remark on what he had read. He had been studying the question.-Albert Lamb, son of defendant, said he supplied the police officer with the previous night’s milk. After the cows were milked he took the milk, assisted by his brothers, to the cooler. The milk was not touched until next morning, when it was placed in the milk visuals and taken in the cart to Redditch. From beginning to end the milk was not tampered reply to the Bench, witness said he washed out the cans, but left no water in them.- Ernest Lamb corroborated. In reply to Mr. Hobson, he said the cows were well-fed and regularly milked. Witness was asked to what he attributed the tremendous shrinkage of cream, and replied the cows were turned out in the warm weather at Easter. There was a sudden spell of cold weather which affected them. Besides grass the cows were fed on mangolds, a little flour, hay, but no grains. – Arthur Lamb, another son, and John Lamb, the defendant, gave similar evidence. – Mr. Hobson said it was not much comfort to the purchasers of milk who had babies to be told that the quality of milk suffered when there was an easterly wind. The wind blew from the east nine months out of the year in this country. He asked defendant if he did not agree that 20 per cent below .3 of fat was an exceptionally poor quality of milk, – Witness : Decidedly, but I cannot account for it. -The Bench had a consultation in private, after which the Chairman said they considered the case clearly proved. Defendant would be fined £1 and 13s. 6d. costs. The Bench certified for the solicitor’s fee (£1 1s.). They also allowed time for payment of the fine and expenses, on the application of Mr. Whiteley, in order that defendant might have an opportunity of considering whether it was not a proper case for an appeal.

Dorothy recalls: Mr Whiteley was the family solicitor. The firm was called Whiteley and Pickering. Bevan (Bevin/Beven) and his wife lived just a few doors down from my grandparents at Winnstay, Birchfield Rd. When he retired they moved to the big white house at the top of the hill over looking the by-pass from Hopwood to Redditch. Their son Donald was a few years older than me and carried on the business.

The Pickerings were Methodists and I’m pretty sure Bevin was a local preacher, so, I suspect that the Whiteley partner of the firm was Methodist too.